[[Swami Sarvapriyananda]] [[[email protected]]] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krCpcpYPmSQ&ab_channel=VedantaVideo 0:03 well as i was just saying a little while ago a monk of our order the one who's 0:08 founded our particular order of monks uh swami vivekananda 0:14 he came to this country in 1893 he was the first hindu monk to come to the west 0:21 to the united states and teach about hinduism um you know among the religions in india 0:27 buddhism is the one which is more well known in the west and it's always been missionary that means it's gone out and 0:33 spread itself but hinduism is mostly being ethnic so it has stayed within the boundaries of india mostly 0:40 but all of that changed with vivekananda in fact recently you must have heard of 0:45 the world uh yoga day which was which is i think the summer equinox 22nd uh 0:52 june june yeah so that's now been declared by the united nations of the world yoga day the day it happened a couple of three 0:59 years ago it was like actually an article in wall street journal about a man who started 1:05 the talk that was swami vivekananda most people don't know about it more than 100 years ago 1:11 so and it was the new yorkers who caught him first that you come to our city and teach 1:17 so he started the vedante society here in 1894 and he was the first of a series of 1:24 teachers from the east which has not stopped even till today there are yogis 1:29 and meditation masters and llamas and all sorts of teachers and different traditions hinduism is so 1:37 vast and varied so you have tantra teachers coming teachers of bhakti like 1:42 the hare krishna people they are also very well known many people look at me and say hurry krishna i'm not from that 1:48 tradition but that's one tradition in hinduism the most ancient tradition we have 1:55 in hinduism is is the one i represent vedanta 2:00 you may have heard of the vedas which are the holy books of the hindus in the vedas 2:07 towards the end of these texts you find texts called the ubanishads 2:14 so the system based on the upanishads is vedanta literally it means the end of the vedas 2:20 by which you mean the highest teachings the final teachings of the majors so the system is based on that the upanishads 2:26 that's why it's called vedanta literally end or the final teachings of the veda 2:31 and that has been the foundation the philosophical and spiritual foundation of most of hinduism other systems evolve 2:38 later on vivek khan the primarily taught that and that's our main uh our central teaching 2:45 you might say in our order in india our order is very well known it's called the ramakrishna mission if you google it 2:51 it's big there for the last more than 100 years it's been there 2:57 but the tradition of monasticism i belong to it goes back 3:02 to at least 13 1400 years ago to shankaracharya who was the major teacher 3:08 of vedanta in vedanta we have many schools so the school which i belong to 3:14 is the non-dualist school it's called advaita vedanta it is like full 3:19 revolution full disclosure but what you say in here is full disclosure where i'm coming from 3:24 so it's so what we'll be talking about is a particular approach to spirituality 3:30 but it's very different from religion i'm not here to preach religion it's nothing it doesn't have anything to do 3:36 with believing in something um it's it's very impersonal it doesn't require anybody to be 3:43 to believe or be a hindu or anything like that absolutely nothing to do with it 3:48 it's impersonal it's experience based it's insight based in fact a more modern way of putting 3:55 what i talk about would be the yoga insight 4:00 insight into what we are the reality about ourselves 4:05 well i'm already getting into my talk is there anything that you would like to ask before we start i'll talk for about 4:12 maybe um 30 30 to 35 40 minutes 4:19 30 minutes and then we go into q a anything that you would like to comment on or say anything before we start off 4:25 should i just go into it okay i'll go into it um 4:33 i'll start with the chant and i'll try to limit the sanskrit to that so 4:39 all the ancient texts sounding fast with but uh they're easily translatable into english so 4:45 it's kind of nice to spread any sanskrit problems everybody can handle it 4:51 i don't know when i was teaching in hollywood a couple of years back there was this 4:56 gentleman who would sit at the back and uh he we divide the system when the science 5:02 people put too much for him he would raise a hand that meant too much landscape get back to england 5:08 i would always flag it a little bit of transmit here but we can do it without most of it but 5:13 feel free to interrupt me at any time and ask a question about what i'm saying 5:20 all right it's customary to start with a chance i'll start with a chant 5:28 [Music] 5:44 [Music] 5:51 lead us from the unreal to the real lead us from darkness unto light 5:57 lead us from death to immortality all peace 6:02 peace 6:07 well as i was just saying um this whole system is based on the 6:13 upanishads and these upanishads are many in number but primarily 10 which we draw upon 6:21 these texts go back to they cannot be precisely dated but three 6:26 to four thousand years at least even more maybe um 6:32 luckily there are 108 upanishads which are available to us but we primarily study 10 of them biggest of them could be a 6:39 sizable book in sanskrit original the smallest of them would fit in less than a page 6:46 luckily all of them can be condensed into one sentence 6:51 if you would like to know what the upanishads basically say they are expressed in what are called in 6:56 the upanishads great sentences sanskrit mahabharata great sentence or profound sentences 7:02 they condense the entire teaching of the opponents and the teaching is this 7:10 you are the absolute the ultimate reality which we are seeking the whole point and purpose of this game 7:17 of life of this universe that thou art in fact that's a direct 7:22 translation of an upanishadic saying it means that thou art 7:30 your reality is the reality of the universe what might be called god in religion 7:38 is basically our own inner reality and the whole point of these teachings 7:44 is if you recognize that reality if you experience it then that would solve all 7:50 your problems in fact you would ask me what is the purpose of the 7:56 upanishads of vedanta the purpose is uh it can be put in two ways one is the 8:03 direct way which would appeal to people today say manhattan even thousands of years after they said this 8:10 it is to overcome suffering and attain bliss 8:15 overcoming suffering and attainment of profound lasting happiness that's the 8:20 point of this entire exercise in fact and that's the whole point of spirituality in india it's not just 8:26 vedanta all the systems aim at this in fact if you know the story of the buddha 8:32 the buddha set out to find out if there is a way out of suffering that was the quest of the buddha it's 8:38 the same quest the insight that the upanishads that the vedanta offers is if you know yourself 8:45 then you transcend suffering what is this yourself that vedanta 8:50 speaks about upanishads say that we are not what we think we are 8:58 we think that we are these limited creatures of flesh and blood with a mind 9:04 that's the most that we can think of but we are a person this person and this person that's we we don't even question 9:09 this the upanishads say that if you would look inwards if you would inquire 9:15 inwards then you would find an extraordinary reality which is present here in the 9:21 immortal spirit um spirit is they have a very precise meaning they're not mysterious at all 9:28 spirit god these are sometimes vague terms but as we shall see today what the upanishads talk about what vedanta 9:34 teaches is very different i mean there is no way of 9:40 not understanding there is no way of mysterious language in fact it's helpful to compare 9:46 different approaches to spirituality the most common approach which you find mostly in religion 9:52 is what vedanta would call the devotional aspect the bhakti approach 9:58 where you are supposed to start with faith there is a god and you believe in the 10:04 god and you surrender to this god and you follow a certain way of life in the hope that 10:11 one day we end up you know meeting god going to heaven i saw a big billboard 10:17 you know on the road it's there after death you will meet god call 815 10:22 for the truth so but you see god is distanced from you whatever god 10:31 is it's distanced from you by time after look at the language after 10:36 death which means not now not right here right now at 6 45 in 10:42 manhattan not now after death another similar billboard it says 10:48 heaven is a place and it says again i call eight one five i should we should call them eight one 10:53 five but that's traditional religion for you it's not just in christianity or judaism 10:58 in you have entire traditions in hinduism which are like that which are they're all true 11:06 without the one unique characteristic of vedanta which is very useful i think and very needed for this world is that it 11:12 considers all religion to be true it does not lay exclusive claim on the truth 11:18 at the core of every religion we believe is the same teaching but in different language different stories different 11:25 practices different approaches which makes the whole thing richer swami vivekananda our founder you know 11:32 he would say that more religions the better he said i believe that every human being should 11:38 have his whole religion i mean there should be seven billion religions here and that would be better than having 11:44 only one religion but as a matter of fact there is i mean aside what i'm talking right now 11:51 all of us whatever religious or spiritual tradition we belong to we do cherry pick a little bit we do 11:58 take in what we believe in what we understand and what suits us and we adapt it to us so even in the same 12:05 religion it may be in the narrowest church two different members of the congregation wouldn't understand it in the same way 12:12 anyway vedanta believes that at the core of all spiritual traditions there is this truth 12:18 one approach is the devotional approach but the problem with the devotional approach is 12:24 it depends heavily on faith so you believe in this and you're separated from that ultimate reality god 12:31 heaven or whatever you call it by time after death by space not here in heaven even look at 12:39 the language heaven is a place in contrast to that when vivekananda 12:45 came here he presented a second approach not the vedanta approach i'm talking about but second approach it's good to contrast 12:52 these approaches then you understand what vedanta is really about a second approach which vivekananda 12:57 presented here and which really appealed to people in this country he said it's not believing religion is 13:04 not believing in something religion is realization religion is experience if there is a god i must see this god if 13:11 i'm if i'm an immortal soul i must know it i must feel it realize it 13:16 so he taught the path path of what is today called patanjali yoga 13:21 yoga has become a very umbrella term now it includes a lot of different practices 13:27 but what he taught here he called it raja yoga in fact his book rajiv was published from new york before this 13:34 first book to be published the central approach in that path this is the second path i'm talking about 13:40 central approach in that path is you meditate you'll be shown techniques of meditation and at the end of which when 13:47 you practice this you will have these extraordinary experiences which will prove to you the truth of 13:54 spiritual life that you are not the body and mind that you are in existence apart from the body and mind and so on 14:01 so a proof what what is called mystical experiences it's not just for mistakes of the church 14:07 but it's for everybody and vivekananda taught that now if religion is something that you 14:12 can experience in fact that's how vivekantha became a monk he would go to his master ramakrishna sri ramakrishna 14:19 was a very well-known spiritual master in india and the best nowadays 14:24 he went to his own master with the question have you seen god look at the question 14:30 have you seen god that means have you experienced god not have you read about him do you believe in it no have you 14:36 seen god so the yoga path of the path of patanjali yoga promises 14:42 experience but there is a big but here also 14:47 the but here is the the problem here is the experience they talk about 14:53 is an extraordinary experience it's not something that we have right now you meditate it might take years of hard 14:59 work inner work until you come to that experience 15:05 so until that time you are in the same boat like a person 15:10 who's believing in god you're also trying to experience them in contrast to that is the third 15:17 approach which i'm going to talk about today not one based on belief 15:22 you have to believe in something take something for granted and wait till after that you go to that place 15:29 no you don't even have to take a series of complicated meditation exercises 15:36 which will finally give you certain experiences not even that 15:41 what and we'll do it today what we will do today is the path of this is called the path of knowledge or path of 15:47 non-dual vedanta it's available right now right here 15:52 and you are that reality according to vedanta that thou art so 15:58 using our day-to-day experiences using that all that we have right now 16:04 can we get an experience of that can we get an insight into this spiritual reality that vehicle speaks about 16:11 our own real self can we get that experience here and now 16:18 directly continuously available not in a different place not in a 16:24 different time not something that you have to wait for not something that you have to go somewhere 16:30 not something other than you it is you yourself right here right now 16:35 an insight into our real nature can we do that so nondual without the presence of a 16:43 variety of approaches to gain that insight 16:48 today i'll be speaking about one of these approaches um there's a vast literature as i said 16:55 upanishads but after the open issues also many masters wrote many texts over the last two three thousand years 17:01 especially after shankaracharya who came 1400 years ago after that many teachers have written many of these texts so one 17:08 of these texts i will use one verse from that text today 17:13 to help us to go deep within ourselves into our own experience 17:19 and see what these people are talking about that this experience we have about 17:26 ourselves we have profoundly mistaken this just the surface of our being the reality about ourselves can we sense it 17:32 can be intuited at least a glimpse of it today so that's what we are going to do this 17:38 sets the background to what i'm going to talk about i haven't started yet though 17:44 but it's very direct this background is important it's very direct and it's easy to grasp and easy easy to 17:50 do this text which i'm going to use now is in the non-dualist tradition 17:56 it's called the analysis of the seer and the sea drink grisha viveka in sanskrit the 18:02 analysis of the seer and the sea and i'm going to take only the first verse from it from the transparent text 18:09 was written about 700 years ago by a master called vidyarnya in the south of 18:14 india um so that's what we're going to do now 18:20 as we go into this i'm going to what we're going to do is 18:26 try to intuit that inner reality which we're not speaks about as we go into this i would like you to 18:32 hold on to and remember one operating principle a very simple principle common sensical approach 18:39 what you see is different from you the seer and the seam are two different 18:46 things it's as simple as i am seeing this piece of this cloth this cloth is clearly different from me 18:53 the eyes see this cloth and the eyes and the clout are clearly different from each other 18:59 so the seer and the scene are two different things just hold on to this principle 19:06 you understand what i'm saying in a very simple way i mean take it in a very nice child-like way yeah okay i see something 19:12 it must be different from it we'll start with this the verse i'll tell you tell it to in 19:18 sanskrit and then we'll go into the english translation the verse goes like this 19:38 what does this mean there are four parts usually the same 19:43 speed versus usually they have four quarters four parts and the whole process has four steps 19:50 each quarter talks about one of these steps so the first part it starts in this way 19:57 the whole principle is it takes you from something simple external step by step 20:03 to the reality four steps first step very simple 20:11 the eyes are the seer and the forms are the same 20:16 trunks means whatever you see so rupam literally means form literally it means color but also extended to mean 20:22 form the all that we see physically see there are forms people and buildings and math 20:29 ceiling all these are forms these are seen and the eyes are the seer 20:36 you might say no no i am the ceo of the guys yes that will come later but take it in a very naive step-by-step childlike fashion 20:44 from the known to the unknown as the saying goes so the eyes are the seer and 20:50 the forms are seen immediately notice one thing the eyes are different from what they 20:55 see clearly the forms are different those things are out there and the eyes are here in fact 21:03 the only thing that eyes cannot see can you tell me what it is what is it that the eyes cannot see 21:11 themselves yes you're right you might say no that's not true i can see my eyes in the mirror but you can 21:18 only see the reflection of your eyes in the mirror the way i see something directly like this i can't see my eyes 21:23 like this even a picture or a selfie it's just a picture even if you see i can see myself and in 21:30 the screen there but even that's a picture i can't see my eyes can't see my eyes directly so the only thing that 21:36 they cannot see are themselves they can only see things which are different from themselves so the first principle is the 21:43 seer and the scene are different the eyes which are the seer are clearly different from what they see one 21:51 second thing note that the same eyes 21:56 perceive a variety of the scene you see different colors different shapes people 22:03 and animals and buildings and the sky and the trees thousands of things which are seen but 22:10 all by the same pair of eyes so in that sense the conclusion is the 22:16 seer is one not that we are one night but one not in a vision seer is one 22:23 the scene are many the seer is one and the scene are 22:28 many the second point the third point which you notice immediately 22:34 the scene keep changing you saw this busy street outside before 22:40 that you saw the subway now you come in here and you're in hearing class and again you will leave and you see so 22:47 many different things it keeps changing but these here the eyes relatively are 22:53 unchanging same the same pair of eyes relatively unchanging see a variety of changing 23:00 things very simple facts you might feel like yeah yeah get on with it 23:05 but it's important to hold on to these three and we'll see the point at the end of it seer and the scene are different 23:12 one the seer is one the scene are many two 23:17 and the seer is unchanging seeing are continuously changing all throughout our lives are changing 23:24 okay this is stage one let's go deeper 23:30 take a step back from the word being seen by the eyes let's take a look let's experience the 23:36 eyes how do we experience the eyes the eyes themselves become the scene seen within coats now 23:43 seen as inexperienced and what experiences your eyes that my eyes are open that my eyes are closed 23:49 that i need glasses that there's something gotten into my eyes all of this how do i know 23:55 with the mind are you with me on this one step back into yourself it's the mind which 24:02 recognizes what's happening to the eyes the sanskrit for that quarter is 24:10 the eyes now become the scene and the mind becomes the seer 24:16 immediately apply those three principles which we got three observations which we got seer and the scene are 24:24 different yes you got it they are different the mind is clearly not the eyes you can again physically see the 24:30 eyes are of vision the mind is something subtle inside so the mind which sees the eye 24:36 sees didn't coach sees in the sense it knows that my eyes are open or closed or so and so forth 24:42 so the mind is the seer and the eyes become the sea what about the world still the same 24:49 the eyes see the world but the eyes are experienced by the mind this is stage two 24:54 and we clearly see number one the mind of the eyes are different seer and the scene are different 25:00 second observation the eyes themselves have um 25:07 you know different inputs the eyes the sense organs not only the eyes the skin and the nose and the sense of touch and 25:14 smell and taste all of these they present a variety of different inputs 25:20 all of them are experienced by the same mind the mind being one 25:26 the inputs of the sense organs are many the seer is one the same are many 25:32 second observation still holds true third 25:37 the seer is unchanging and the scene are changing clear sometimes 25:42 i thought my eyes were very good now i need glasses for my eyes the condition of my other sense organs 25:49 is also changing the body is changing all of that is understood by the same 25:54 mind relatively unchanging here you might say the mind changes continuously true but 25:59 the mind changes into the mind more thoughts talks into thoughts and thoughts so the fear remaining relatively 26:06 unchanged the same are changing three observations cr and the scene are 26:11 different the seer is one the scene are many the seer is unchanging c not changing 26:20 step three go deeper get deeper now the magic begins 26:25 so far it's been common sense are you with me so far are we on firm ground all right 26:31 it's like climbing up the stairs you put your feet firmly on one step before you move up to the next one 26:37 so now we go deeper the mind itself look here is the world 26:44 here are the eyes somewhere inside diffuses the mind the mind itself 26:49 becomes the object which we try to see the mind becomes the sea 26:56 in sanskrit 27:03 the mind itself becomes the scene and it is true that we experience the 27:08 mind who does not experience the mind thoughts emotions 27:13 happy sad pleased irritated want this don't want that like this it's 27:20 like that i understand i do not understand i remember can't remember it's on the tip 27:26 of my tongue all of these things are the mind and who does not experience it we 27:33 experience it we experience our minds directly if you experience your mind 27:40 then your mind is the same something that you experience an object of experience 27:46 and there's an object of experience a scene there must be a seer 27:52 and you remember the seer and the scene must be different so there must be there is a fear of the 28:00 mind which is not the mind that which shines upon the mind and 28:05 reveals the mind to you so first point is that the seer of the 28:11 mind let's just call it the witness sanskrit is sakshi which means witness 28:17 there is a witness within you which shines upon the mind i'm using shine a light metaphor because inside you can 28:23 see it's revealed if you look inside you will see your thoughts are there emotions are there 28:28 feelings are there what shines upon the mind 28:33 let's call it the witness the real you you are the one which shines upon the mind 28:40 and that witness must be different from the mind here is something see so far it was 28:48 common sense eyes are different from that matte yoga mat 28:53 we know it's clear the eyes are different from the mind the mind is something psychological eye eyes 28:59 are physiological clearly different but i the witness i'm different from the 29:04 mind here you're beginning to if you are careful you'll catch me here wait a minute this is where it begins to be new 29:11 this is where vedant actually starts undeniably the mind is experienced 29:19 so there must be an experiencer of the mind you must be the experiencer there's another there's a psychologist here in 29:25 new york greg good he is very interested in vedanta so he teaches us puts a lot of vedante in his 29:32 teachings he suggests a simple experiment he says 29:38 that uh have a thought in your mind like just think two plus two is four 29:43 just a thought now consider the feeling of that experience 29:49 of thinking two plus two is four are you aware of two plus two four or is 29:54 two plus two four aware of you that's a weird question nobody asked you for in that sense that way earlier think 30:01 about it are you not aware of your thoughts are your thoughts aware of you or are you aware of your thoughts 30:08 think about just experience it two plus two four clearly it was the thought which you were aware of 30:15 so there is something within you which shines upon your thoughts which is different from your thoughts 30:22 not only is it different from your thoughts not only are you different from your thoughts that witness you different from your 30:29 thoughts but you are one your thoughts are many 30:35 throughout the day you have thousands of thoughts feelings emotions memories 30:41 desires ideas all of these things come and go they flit back and forth in the light of that 30:48 witness so the scene are many and the seer is one 30:54 and third the same observation still holds good that consciousness that witness within 31:00 you is unchanging what changes are the thoughts or the emotions what changes is the mind 31:08 throughout our days and nights and months and years of our life is the mind which changes 31:15 what vedanta points out is that there is an unchanging witness which shines in the mind 31:21 that does not change three points the witness which is the real you which 31:26 is with what vedanta is trying to point out to you and we shall see an exercise to try to appreciate that 31:33 that witness is different from your mind you are not 31:39 your mind second you are one your mind is full of 31:45 thousands of different thoughts you are unchanging mind is continuously changing and the body is changing and 31:51 the world is changing too but you want that unchanging light that witness witness consciousness 31:58 there's a nice story which the islam is the monks in the himalayas tell about this 32:05 that you are different from your mind you see here itself you can begin to apply vedanta and it helps 32:12 one a man went from delhi to the himalayas but here you go to the therapist but 32:18 the monks in india have played more or less the same role as the therapist here so he goes to the monk and the higher 32:25 you go the wiser the monk is supposed to be not true i've stayed in the himalayas in 32:32 a little hut about 10 000 feet in the in gangotri where these source of 32:37 the river ganga the kanji's riverweight comes from and there are monks with even now there are monks who stay in caves and 32:45 little huts there and there's a place even higher 14 000 feet 32:50 above the glacier where um there are some monks who stay there so i thought maybe i could go and stay there 32:56 and ask the monk where it stayed there and he said don't go you can barely keep body and soul 33:02 together there let alone meditate and do your spiritual practices it's just useless stay here so higher you go you're not necessarily 33:09 wiser you're colder basically 33:15 um yeah because there you know the hot i stayed in i remember there's no there's 33:21 no electricity so there's no furniture there's no question of anything to warm you i mean if it's 33:26 um 30 or 40 outside it's 30 and 40 inside the room and your blankets are also 30 33:32 30 degrees so you have to warm it up with your own body heat um 33:39 so this monk tells this person who's come what do you want and this person says in 33:44 hindi it says i'm miserable i'm unhappy i'm miserable help me 33:50 and the monk says to him now you can also understand the technique he's applying he says are you 33:56 aware of your misery do you feel your misery you do you feel your unhappiness 34:03 this man says of course that's why i'm here i am unhappy i feel unhappy that's why i've come to you i 34:08 didn't feel it why would i say i'm a man and then the monk says if you feel your 34:14 misery if you experience your misery then you are the experiencer of the misery and the miseries the experienced 34:21 the seer and the scene cannot be the same you are not miserable you are the knower of the misery in your mind 34:28 you must be apart from that in order to experience it 34:34 as much as i must be something different from this clock in order to experience this club 34:41 and this man thinks uh this monkto tells him think about it meditate upon this 34:46 and come back tomorrow this man meditates upon it and thinks about heart about it and actually if you do that you 34:52 will actually feel immediately a space between you and your mind but anger in your mind 34:59 is an anger in your mind you are not angry the one which saw the peaceful mind is 35:06 the same one which is seeing the angry mind the same one which means again see the peaceful mind that one is not angry 35:13 that one is not miserable that one is not upset 35:19 now this person feels it and he comes back to the market and says you are right 35:24 i am not the misery in the mind the misery in the mind is the scene i'm the seer of that i'm so peaceful now 35:32 here's the real point of the story the monk immediately scolds him and says no you are not peaceful you are the seer of 35:40 the peace in your mind you see what happens is that's the trap we fall 35:45 into the moment the mind calms down a little oh i'm so quiet so calm it's the mind which is 35:52 happy quiet and calm the one which witnesses that calm mind 35:58 is also the one which with witness that upset mind it one which witness the miserable mind 36:04 that one is not affected by the movements of the mind the ups and downs of the mind the misery and the happiness 36:11 of the mind the anger and the peace of the mind that one is not peaceful in 36:17 fact the word they use in vedante which means peace itself 36:23 that one which you are that witness self is peace itself 36:28 it does not get agitated or disturbed by the movements of the mind 36:34 you are not peaceful you are the witness of the peace of the mind you are the witness of the peaceful 36:39 mind then only you can be safe from the mind otherwise what would happen to that man 36:45 is the moment he comes down from the mountains and goes to delhi maybe um 36:52 with the beautiful air i don't know if you've heard about it 36:57 and get struck in the traffic famous traffic in famous traffic in delhi and you'll get upset and you'll think oh i 37:05 was so happy so peaceful in the himalayas now become upset again it's because you're again identified 37:12 with the mind you get there was uh 37:17 there was a funny story recently some kind of tension between india and china 37:25 and uh somebody's some some press somewhere the chinese are threatened that you know we can be 37:30 in delhi in 24 hours um and somebody again replied from a from 37:35 the indian press no you can't because delhi is heavily defended on all sides by traffic 37:41 nobody can get steady in 24 hours so anyway it gets upset because again 37:48 i'm connected to the mind if only you know that you are not the mind the mind 37:53 goes on functioning but you're not the mind you're not the body this is the central teaching 38:00 of vedanta that you are something much bigger much faster than the mind and 38:06 body you identify yourself with you see normally we think of ourselves as 38:12 bodies with consciousness what vedanta wants you to do is to 38:17 reverse that you are a consciousness with a body experiencing a body 38:23 operating a body embroiding you are not a body with consciousness your consciousness 38:30 it makes a huge difference when you make you make this biggest change this reversal 38:37 the wall street journal article referred to about vivekananda on the international day of yoga a few years 38:43 ago the journalist was she was very humorous she wrote 38:49 yoga which is so popular across the west in the united states especially especially in new york every other 38:54 corner has a yoga studio people who flock to the yoga studio 38:59 would be shocked to know what viveka on the top he thought you are not the body 39:05 and they would be further shocked to know that he further went on to say you are not the mind either 39:11 there is the body and needs to be taken care of there is the mind it needs to be taken care of and managed but you are 39:17 not either of them you are that witness self that consciousness 39:23 apart from the thoughts in the mind apart from the body not physically apart 39:29 it's supposed to be all pervading but operating through the mind and body 39:34 unchanging whereas the body keeps changing the mind keeps changing one whereas the thoughts are many the 39:42 body is a composite of many things now the immediately the question will be 39:48 oh that sounds cool can i experience it like i experienced the body clearly okay it's here i can 39:54 experience the mind too all right here i experience the mind can i experience this witness self 40:00 you're talking about we come to the last part of the verse remember just the opening theme this is 40:05 the first verse in that little book the last part of the verse says 40:11 sorry bad news you cannot experience that witness self but hold on 40:18 in fact vivek himself said the real self which vedanta speaks about is not something to be known but before you get 40:24 up and he said why did you invite me in there in a perfectly nice afternoon in manhattan to if you can't experience 40:31 that with myself it's more than experienceable it's not an object to be experienced it's the one 40:38 which experiences the verse says the witness self the witness is never an 40:46 object to be experienced it is that which experiences all objects 40:52 a good way of understanding this is take the example of the eyes themselves 40:59 if you ask you cannot experience it however how do i know it's even there that this witness this pure 41:05 consciousness unchanging awareness you speak of how do i even know it's there 41:11 one example is the eyes themselves 41:17 suppose i say that did you you went to bendable body was the swami 41:23 there say yeah he was there if somebody asks you how do you know 41:30 you'll say i saw him so the proof of the fact that the swami was there you saw the song right you saw 41:36 the song that's the proof and then these other people there i don't know let me look at look at the 41:42 they register with the maybe they sign the names or something yeah those people they're there because if they signed out 41:49 if somebody asks you where are you there will you say 41:55 that yeah i was there i saw myself so i must have been there no 42:01 you don't your own existence here does not depend upon you seeing yourself 42:07 let me put it in an even more simple way everything here if i ask you is there a 42:13 water container there you'll say yeah i can see it is there a swami sitting in front of you 42:18 yeah i can see it everything that you can see here you can say that yes it's there i see it 42:25 now if i ask you do you have eyes are your eyes there 42:30 [Music] you say yes will you say yes they are here because i can see them 42:36 no you can't see them and yet you're sure the eyes are there 42:42 every object is there because you see it the eyes testify to their 42:47 presence but how do you know that your eyes themselves are there and you guys themselves are there by 42:54 seeing what will you say that i've got eyes bye 42:59 by seeing this clock you say that islam is wearing this orange cloth by seeing what will you say that i have 43:06 got eyes that you've got eyes tell me sounds like a riddles but you're by 43:12 seeing any object correct sometimes people say that by seeing the eyes actually look at the mirror no you 43:17 don't if you look at anything if you see it then you've got eyes perfectly good eyes which are working see anything 43:24 seeing anything proves two things to you one thing which is obvious the object whatever you see 43:31 second thing which we miss are the eyes themselves that you have working eyes which are revealing that objective now 43:37 the point of this example is this witness consciousness is exactly like that 43:43 if you say what is the proof that there is this witness consciousness that i am this pure consciousness 43:48 the fact that you experience anything at all that you see things that you touch or 43:55 smell or taste that you can think that you feel angry that you feel peaceful 44:00 that you can understand something that you cannot understand something that you recall something that we cannot recall 44:06 something some sometimes all of these are experiences and they are all made possible by that one 44:13 unchanging light within us which is our own self which we really are so that's the proof of the existence of 44:19 that that witness consciousness okay this is the teaching 44:25 of that one verse which takes you from the physical world 44:31 to the mental world inside back to the witness consciousness you see physical world the forms of the word 44:38 eyes are the seer the word is separate from the eyes eyes are the same the mind is the seer 44:44 sucking word within the thoughts ideas further back that consciousness is the seer see here within quotes and the mind 44:51 is the scene ultimately that consciousness alone is the seer the experiencer of everything in your life 45:00 imagine this if your eyes are here you can see this room suppose you shut your eyes 45:07 then you cannot see the room but are you gone no you're still there 45:12 right you're still there you just you you are a person who is not seeing anything anymore that's all that's your 45:18 experience but imagine that witness consciousness suppose it's not there then what will 45:23 happen if we have correctly grasped the concept you'll see it's just blackness nothing 45:29 will there won't be any experience at all all experience depends on this consciousness 45:35 this consciousness plus the mind you can think this consciousness plus the intellect 45:40 you can understand this consciousness plus the memory you can recall things this consciousness plus mind plus eyes 45:47 you can see things consciousness plus mind plus ears you can hear things 45:53 that consciousness is essential the core of our being towards the end of that text the text 46:00 which i'm referring to it gives exercises i'll just tell you about the exercise and stop it's more 46:05 important to ask your questions or you can talk about it 46:10 it gives you meditative six meditative exercises to um to 46:16 intuit this this witness consciousness and to stabilize in it 46:23 so one of the techniques is this take up any object 46:30 pick up any object so yes the water bottle the green water bottle 46:36 and you put it in front of you and you look at it and then step by step go back that it's 46:42 an object i am the seer of that object object is the scene the eyes are the sphere and you close your eyes the eyes 46:50 are seen the mind is experiencing the clothes that the eyes are closed that is experienced by the mind that's 46:56 the mind i am the witness of the mind 47:01 step back from there you do not try to catch hold of the witness you cannot 47:08 just acknowledge since the mind is appearing mind is experienced i am i i am the experiencer 47:15 of the mind i am the witness self at that point 47:21 you are supposed to use a text a vedantic text which 47:27 what you have discovered the text tells you i am the self-effulgent 47:34 unchanging consciousness and that self-effergent unchanging 47:41 consciousness existence itself consciousness itself bliss itself 47:47 that i am that should refer not as a chant 47:53 but as something should be as as clear as here is the clock 48:00 the word refers to an object here similarly i am that unchanging self-luminous witness 48:08 consciousness repeat that in the mind but it should point to something quite real within you 48:15 i am the witness clearly i am the witness i am unchanging 48:22 i am consciousness itself why consciousness itself because you are aware whatever you are you must be aware 48:30 as you hold on to that the mind quietens down 48:36 that text also should be dropped technique is drop the object that means 48:42 the thoughts in the mind drop the text also that i am the witness consciousness that that also stopped doing it and 48:49 remain as the witness consciousness 48:58 you'd like to try it now you're already trying to look at my hand 49:05 and use the hand to become aware that your eyes are watching 49:12 close your eyes go deeper become aware that the 49:18 mind noticed the closing of the eyes that's the mind 49:25 which is hearing this understanding this that's the mind that is clearly revealed to you 49:33 that which it is to which it is revealed that is the witness consciousness which i am 49:42 i am consciousness i am the shining witness 49:51 i am unchanging eternal 50:01 i rest in my own peace peace nature 50:10 the word changes the body changes 50:17 from childhood to youth to middle age to old age 50:24 the mind changes 50:31 from morning to evening how many times it has become irritated it's become 50:37 happy become curious dull sleepy alert mind 50:43 changes continuously all of this is revealed to me in my own 50:49 light and that unchanging light within 51:03 that light is serene 51:09 that life has no problems 51:25 you feel comfortable you can open your eyes 51:54 there any questions comments yes 52:00 observations it's a part of our understanding 52:12 absolute self is essentially a witness yes consciousness is separate 52:20 and you witness that but i feel that my essence is 52:26 to have free will and to be an actor as opposed to just purely the seal 52:32 so where is the decision-making i don't just age 52:38 and things happen that i witness but i actually make things happen 52:43 so where does that either happen as a duality instead just happen at the consciousness 52:49 level and i witnessed that something much more fundamental where's the free will i was very well 52:55 resolved i understand um first of all in vedanta we identify the self the witness self with 53:02 consciousness the mind is something different from consciousness consciousness i'm using 53:08 consciousness the word as a translator free translation of the sanskrit word chaitanya 53:13 which means awareness like a light shining the light doesn't do anything it just reveals what is 53:19 now when it release the first thing that is revealed to you is a mind 53:25 thoughts ideas that's where decisions are taken that's where feelings arise that's where likes 53:31 and dislikes are that's where rational thinking takes place all of this we can be aware we can be 53:37 aware of our minds working charting a day trying to come to a decision getting to a decision 53:43 so this getting to decision impacting vedanta these activities are very clearly classified so decision making 53:50 for example is said to be a function of the intellect in sanskrit 53:55 mind present presents a variety of thoughts and options emotions 54:01 there is something called smriti which means memory which you recall all that is like a hard 54:07 disk stored here all of these are functions in the in the subtle sphere in 54:13 in the in the mind i'm using mind as a catch-all phrase for all of this literally if you see the sanskrit word for it 54:20 which means inner instrument so this body is an external instrument inside you have a subtle inner instrument like 54:26 a software in a computer but you are not that also and the proof of that is 54:32 you are if you your essential nature was free will and decision making you would 54:38 always be having free will and decision making and yet there are times when you're not exercising that there are 54:43 times when you are in the reverie or you are sleepy or you have fallen asleep or 54:49 you are in a dream you're completely in a dream lot of things are happening but really when you 54:55 wake up from it it's not that you're making any decisions just mind playing like like a movie 55:01 then deep sleep comes where everything shuts down and according to vedanta for example in deep sleep 55:08 are you there in deep sleep or not you our first reaction might be to say no i'm not there in deep sleep but then 55:13 that leads to a paradox who slept if you did not sleep according to vedanta deep sleep is not 55:21 an um absence of experience it's an experience of absence it's just like you 55:27 open your eyes and see this world and close your eyes and see blankness but the scene blankets also kind of seen 55:34 deep sleep is like that so you see what continues throughout all our experiences is awareness 55:41 free will for example according to vedanta free will is in the mind in nature so the feeling of freedom so you are 55:48 exercising free will if you're living in a police state in say eastern europe or somewhere you feel that your free will 55:54 has been curtailed all of these experiences are um are illumined by the greatness 56:00 consciousness it's not that you're just a witness you are a witness and you deploy all of 56:07 these things just think of all of these faculties like memory and free will and intellect 56:14 and emotions all of them just think of them like apps on your smartphone all of these things are 56:21 resources available to you to your consciousness to do things with them right 56:27 would that make sense 56:32 yes in some of the buddhist readings i've done they talk a lot about ego is that 56:38 similar to the witness that you're not talking about no no no here's the difference in the 56:45 if you read buddhism and vedanta the first thing you come across is it seems to be an enormous contradiction because 56:51 the buddha said that there is no self no permanent inner self is there what we 56:57 consider to be a person is just an illusion it's a continuous stream of thoughts feelings emotions if you 57:03 analyze it this there's no particular self to be found but ego is not a permanent entity 57:11 if you look deeper so it seems to be contradictory to the vedanta position because vedanta seems to say that there 57:16 is an eternal self within but if you look deeper the what the buddha denied is also what 57:22 the what they want to deny it does not say that eternal self within is an object 57:28 the ego is an object you can right now feel it i say to yourself you have a feeling of your own own business of your 57:36 own existence and yet the one which feels that that's the real you not the person which 57:43 is felt you are vedanta keeps on saying that you 57:49 are not this person after all the person disappears when you go to sleep the person has been continuously 57:55 changing it's a work in progress from your baby to your teenage years to your youth to now and further ahead the 58:02 person is changing which person are you in this stream are your collection of all of them 58:09 vedanta would say that you are the pure subject that consciousness which experiences a person in terms of 58:16 body mind what about a person who experience multiple personalities 58:22 you can still explain that it's the same consciousness getting identified with the particular mental makeup which is 58:28 the person here or the person there if that mental makeup is fractured somehow 58:34 into multiple personalities the same consciousness would get identified with this or that or the other one and would 58:39 feel like a house at war with itself [Music] 58:46 in vedanta one thing to do is note that 58:51 they're talking about fact something available right here not something to be believed in 58:57 not even something to be experienced much later it's something available right here let 59:02 me ask you this we went from the world seen by the eyes 59:08 then the eyes experienced by the mind and the mind shining in the light of the consciousness now if i say the world out 59:16 here is it a fact or is it philosophy it's a fact does it take it in a live way yeah it's a fact i experience it 59:23 the body the eyes and the body are the facts right now or is it 59:28 theory it's a fact you experience it right now go deeper 59:34 the mind thoughts emotions ideas are the facts are the experiences or are 59:40 the theories i feel happy it's a fact that's your direct 59:46 inner experience isn't it now the witness consciousness which 59:51 shines upon the mind is it a fact or is it theory or philosophy at this point most 59:58 people would say oh that's something that i have to experience i have to understand 1:00:03 consists it's as much a pact as this thing when right now 1:00:11 this process should if you carefully attend to it world eyes 1:00:17 mind and me shining meanings not the person the impersonal consciousness shining 1:00:23 upon the mind should be evident right now 1:00:30 yes um so we how are our witnesses connected to each other i guess it's a very good question 1:00:37 we'll explore that in in coming classes but vedanta says ask this question exactly the question you asked 1:00:44 you'll be glad to know this is something that in the bhagavad-gita which is one of the texts of vedanta krishna takes up 1:00:51 the 13th chapter how many witnesses are there so there are a dozen people here 15 people are there 1:00:59 15 witnesses are there 10 million witnesses out there in new york are there 7 billion witnesses in the world 1:01:06 today or if you include the animals and everything trillions of witnesses 1:01:11 or is there one and vedanta has a startling conclusion there's one witness 1:01:18 we are actually all of us one immortal 1:01:23 makes you feel good this being one being united 1:01:29 it's it's not a slogan brotherhood or sisterhood it's not a slogan 1:01:36 that we are all one vedanta takes it very seriously in fact the fundamental teaching of vedanta is that one 1:01:43 existence within ourselves which shines forth you see what makes us different 1:01:48 clearly our bodies are different you can count clearly our minds are different 1:01:55 the knowledge that you have i don't have the memories that she has i don't have 1:02:00 our minds are different but if i'm not the body if i'm not the mind if i'm the light shining on this 1:02:07 mind what to differentiate the light shining of this mind from the light shining on that one 1:02:14 in fact the question vedanta would ask is why do you think we are different not 1:02:20 why do you think we are one we are different in terms of body personalities minds but we are one as 1:02:27 far as that inner self is there literally one existence not only all human beings all animals do all sentient 1:02:34 sentient beings where consciousness is manifest we are all one being right now 1:02:41 and not only the most profound question not only that it also touches upon the question of god 1:02:51 that is the god that made up the worships that one consciousness unbroken 1:02:56 consciousness within all beings it's not a god of faith 1:03:02 one person asked a monk in the himalayas give me an irrefutable proof of the existence of god 1:03:08 and the answer was your existence that only makes sense in this vedantic 1:03:13 framework because our existence that witness consciousness if it is one unbroken witness consciousness in all 1:03:19 beings and the immortal consciousness body is dying minds change 1:03:24 that consciousness is unchanging that is what is 1:03:42 in fact i'll make one more observation here uh we don't have time no 1:03:48 if you do need to go though certainly yeah but we're not out of time 1:03:54 it's this you know in the world of religion there are two kinds of religions you 1:04:00 will notice one are the theistic religions which believe in some kind of god 1:04:05 judaism christianity islam and many varieties of hinduism in hinduism god is 1:04:10 understood in different ways but there is a god vishnu or shiva or 1:04:15 divine mother in hinduism god can be male or female and there is a form of god worship which is both male 1:04:22 and female it's called or beyond gender 1:04:28 with form without form so all these are religions which believe 1:04:33 in a god but there are religions who do not believe in god 1:04:39 buddhism they don't talk about god there are other religions in india for 1:04:45 example jainism this is not so well known outside india they are 1:04:51 probably the most peaceful religion on earth the fundamental practice is peace non-violence they have the giant monks 1:04:58 where filters masks over their mouth so that they don't kill guns 1:05:03 and they walk with a peacock feather fan so that they can gently sweep aside ants when they walk on the backs so they are 1:05:09 that non-violent i think sam harris he said in a talk 1:05:15 that uh the it's only for the giants the more fanatic they are the less you have to fear them 1:05:23 but anyway they don't believe in existence of a separate god now how do you make sense of them 1:05:31 from the theistic religions if you look at buddhism it seems to be atheistic how can you have a religion without god 1:05:37 and from the buddhist perspective when you look at the theistic religions their question would be what superstition what 1:05:42 god proved this god where is this god of yours there's no proof it says to believe 1:05:50 from the vedantic perspective both make sense that thou art let's say that's the 1:05:57 summation of all the teaching the that there refers to god the thou 1:06:03 there refers to you and what it means is that pure consciousness witness consciousness within you is also the god 1:06:10 of religion it's one and the same thing when you put it make a difference 1:06:16 between yourself and that ultimate reality and you worship it is a god it becomes a taste of creature 1:06:22 when you look within an inquiry within and try to find out the reality that becomes a buddhistic kind of 1:06:27 religion but in both cases you reach the same result his observation out there 1:06:34 well thank you very much we'll end with the peace chant yes well swami just 1:06:39 the practice of the object the eyes the mind the pure consciousness it just seems like a 1:06:45 really valuable meditation it is can you give some advice on how to uh 1:06:51 apply that just like on a daily basis what's effective what's doable in a normal lifestyle absolutely 1:06:59 you see the difference between this meditation and what we call the patanjali yoga meditation particularly 1:07:04 yoga meditation demands exclusive time it's very powerful but it demands exclusive time you have to sit in an 1:07:10 asana you have to block out the word and turn inwards and meditate for hours and hours morning and evening it demands a 1:07:16 lot of time this one is very different it can take up any kind of experience 1:07:22 you have in the world because that with yourself is always there and should should be in principle always 1:07:27 discoverable so every experience you have in the world is potentially a 1:07:34 place a time for meditation especially it's useful when you are in trouble 1:07:40 yes when you're upset really it works and it works like magic if you try it a little bit beforehand and you get the hang of 1:07:47 it like riding a bike then you can navigate a crowded street like that outside also very fast 1:07:52 um all that you need to do is first of all 1:07:58 not been on the preliminary entry into vedantes remember stop 1:08:03 stop s stands for stop t stands for take a breath 1:08:11 o stands for orient yourself that i'm going to do the vedantic meditation now 1:08:16 so o is this vedantic meditation where whatever was bothering me 1:08:24 is an object is the scene it might be a person 1:08:30 it might be something in my body a health problem it might be something somebody said 1:08:35 which has come into my mind it's a thought a feeling of guilt a feeling of humiliation a feeling of rejection 1:08:42 whatever whatever hurts irritates it's a thought it's not you 1:08:49 remember millions of thoughts like that have come and gone in the last 20 30 40 years of 1:08:55 your life it will go away to be never remembered again in instance 1:09:02 you distance yourself open up a space between you and the thought i am the witness of this thought in the witness 1:09:08 of its non-existence and the witness of its arising and the witness of its being shining in 1:09:15 my light i will be the witness of its disappearance i am that unchanging witness 1:09:20 consciousness repeat it to yourself use that very annoying thought that thought itself 1:09:26 don't try to push it out use it for spiritual practice they'll become your best friends 1:09:32 because when you're hurting when you are irritated there is a motivation to come out of that pain 1:09:38 at other times um you know when you are okay you don't really feel like that you need some kind 1:09:44 of spiritual practice or protection but when you are in trouble when you are unhappy you need you have 1:09:50 the motivation to come out of it so you use that unhappiness use that pain you can use it for physical pain also 1:09:56 the more better you get at it incredible things there are stories swami turian and then 1:10:01 or this of people having operations performed with without anesthesia 1:10:08 don't try it right now not after one class you're asking for trouble 1:10:17 yes use that use the technique is very simple whatever bothers you 1:10:23 the thought or the sensation use it to turn inward the whole trick is 1:10:29 to turn inwards you see our whole problem is in normal life day-to-day life we are 1:10:34 flowing outwards we see outside hear things outside taste smell touch and think about things 1:10:42 outside people outside even south side even the body is outside 1:10:47 even the mind is outside and our whole life is in this but the 1:10:53 so that requires the only way to put it is you're moving like this you need to turn like this 1:10:59 it can't be expressed in language but you get a feeling of it you get it do you understand what i'm talking about 1:11:05 you can understand it you can't express it in language language is really not meant to deal with this language is 1:11:10 meant to deal with the objective world try it it works 1:11:18 there are other ways which we will talk about come next time um 1:11:25 this is just a taste of what's there it's a vast feeling you can imagine thousands of years 1:11:31 people have been working away at this should i end with the peace chant 1:11:38 sean 1:11:52 thank you thank you thank you 1:12:02 i'm afraid thank you i'm afraid i've intruded upon your stretching 1:12:16 [Music] yeah you know i actually have one question something that we experience regularly 1:12:22 doing this work and those of you that have worked privately with us um how you would think about this from the 1:12:28 standpoint of consciousness we find that people get better faster and uh 1:12:36 heal quicker when they apply awareness absolutely um 1:12:42 now would you call that the awareness in the mind or the consciousness whichever it is it is better the more 1:12:49 you step back from the body into the mind remember stepping back from the body into the mind is not living in your head 1:12:56 it's living in awareness in fact it's a more it's more being more present not being more intellectual and lost in 1:13:02 your thoughts one reason why vedanta doesn't work is if you leave it at the 1:13:07 level of the health of the intellect when you feel oh i learned a nice philosophy today or an ancient indian philosophy today it 1:13:14 will not work for you then the mind quickly takes it up and compartmentalizes it puts it there 1:13:20 rather if you use a kind of say a ballistic mindfulness exercise 1:13:25 instead of thinking if you feel the presence here and now you have already taken a step into 1:13:31 awareness and any kind of activity that you do 1:13:36 stretching eating walking working in that awareness will 1:13:42 definitely be enhanced yeah yeah i mean we honestly see that 1:13:47 the parts of the body that are the most injured have the most lack of consciousness 1:13:53 both the person that's working and they're not conscious and we the 1:13:59 practitioners become unconscious and so just bringing consciousness to it the change happens quicker okay one book i 1:14:06 would recommend is it's not a vedanta book but a very useful thing for vedanta and for the practice here what's the 1:14:12 miracle of mindfulness fake nathan it's a classic it's what really it's a he's a buddhist 1:14:17 monk but it's it's practical it's immediate 1:14:23 right now right here it immediately you see the benefit yeah we we often joke you just want to take a 1:14:29 pill and then everything goes away but it doesn't in fact it doesn't it doesn't in fact um and we see that so 1:14:36 maybe i can use that consciousness argument to convince people to pay attention you see in principle 1:14:43 a pill is an object but consciousness is closer to your own reality 1:14:48 the growth the thing which you use which is closer to yourself the more powerful it is 1:14:53 and the more control you have over it i think it might stop working 1:15:00 so what does everybody think should we end here or do you want to do a few i mean it's a little i mean it's kind of 1:15:06 an interesting environment to go into stretching it i don't know i really take a boat do people need to leave 1:15:14 yeah yeah i think it's time that's okay this was about this so please come again